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Foam & Friends
#018 Robby Marshall
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Robby was in studio chatting about spray foam, music, modern technology, his childhood, mold remediation, and more.
Oh, there we go. We're live.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00All right. Welcome, welcome. Doing well, man. I've got uh Robbie Marshall of Connolly Colony Installation. Jeez. Everybody knows Robbie uh at the events. If you uh don't know him personally, well, he's Danny Walker's right hand, man.
SPEAKER_01So I'm usually bouncing in the shadow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, there you are. But but hey, I mean, I think a lot of people have gotten to know you pretty well in the last little. I think you're one of the first people on here who is not a owner or something like that. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. It's kind of been one of my first. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Sweet.
SPEAKER_00So Danny couldn't make it. We were gonna, I was gonna try to see if I could get both of you, but but he can't couldn't make it. So and then Colton, your your newest uh your he's the assistant, he's he's my like I mean it's just me and him, yeah, yeah, just the two of you. So he couldn't make it either. But hey, I'm glad to have just you. I think it'd be great to kind of talk and get to know you a little better. I've met you a good handful of times pretty much every event, but never really got to know you, and man, I'm really glad you can make it out. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_01It's fun, it's cool. We're usually doing jobs down here, it's kind of nice to be down for like oh sure, something that's not work related. So you're probably about what hour, hour and 15 from here. Where I live, it's only about 50 minutes, but from the shop, yeah, it's about an hour and a half.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so you live probably a little closer to Detroit then?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I live uh 23 and 94. Oh, okay. That kind of nice field. Okay, yeah, that's good. Works a half hour away. It's actually kind of funny. That's not bad. Half hour west of work. Colton lives a half hour north of work, so yeah, works out.
SPEAKER_00So what you you've been with Danny for a few years, three or four?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, almost I'm on uh I'm like three and a half years, yeah. Oh wow. End of this year, December this year will be four. I've worked with him before. Oh, you did? Yeah, before he started colony, I worked with him at Foamall. I was I was his assistant, and then a lot of people were super helpful from Spray Foam Worldwide when he broke his foot. He fell through a pole barn ceiling and broke his heel. And then I became head sprayer, and that was only after maybe like a year or so of exposure to foam and foam work. I did not do any labor really, other than I worked on a farm when I was like 16. Oh, yeah, and then I worked at a liquor store, and then I worked at a gas station, so nothing like crazy, and then I started working at foam all and he was head sprayer, and we got along really well. And then after he had gotten injured, the owner of foam all, because I had been shadowing Danny for a year and picked up a lot, asked if I wanted to take his place, not necessarily labeled head sprayer, but I was the only one really spraying after that for about a month or two, and I got burned out on it because I wasn't really ready and I didn't necessarily the workload that Danny was under was a lot more than what I had expected. And I went he was also trying to do a lot more at the time than I think I was just trying to learn really, and so being thrown into that position, I kind of got overwhelmed. And I was also young, I'm not as much of a hothead now, I'd like to think. That comes with age, you're getting told what to do, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like 23 years old, I don't want to do this sweaty work. So I went and I was a front-end loader operator for about a year. I did landscaping and front-end loader operator, dumpster renter under same company. And then I was tired of that because I just wasn't really anywhere to go. And I called Danny and I was like, Hey, I know you just started the insulation company, and it was like perfect because we had gotten along so well, and he only had I want to say that he had had other employees for like the year that the company had been running before I joined him. But when I joined, it was him and a like I think he was 60 or 70. He was an old guy, so it was it was tough work for both of them. Danny was you know pulling the weight, and the old guy was you know picking up whatever he could to help Danny out. And the guy that he had was a workhorse, he was a good guy, but it was just I came along, and that's when things kind of took off.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, me and him.
SPEAKER_01So you're saying that the the the guy who was around 70 was working at Colony, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was helping Danny, and he was like, I like I said, he was a great worker, he was getting into crawl spaces and everything like that. It's just you know, I don't that guy, in my opinion, probably shouldn't be doing crawl spaces, he's 60 or 70, you know, he should be doing something a little bit easier on the body, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, and I I don't know, but I'm I'm guessing that he had to do it, right?
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, 100% of the same ilk, you're not gonna get that guy to stop working, you know what I mean. But yeah, it was just I'm sure he was probably happy that a younger guy finally came along. Oh, I bet he was help him not have to bag fiberglass in a three-block high crawl space, you know.
SPEAKER_00You know, I think it's really cool that Danny, you know, you guys he kind of treats you guys more like you know, he doesn't really seem to treat you from from what we can see, yeah. Like he brings you to all these events for the most part.
SPEAKER_01He that is, I will say, he really does try to get all of us involved in that aspect, and then the getting certified, getting certified and kind of like forming your own relationships. I don't want you to just be associated as Danny Walker's guy, even though that's the way I get introduced all the time. Of course, fine with that, but some of my best buddies in spray foam worldwide or SPFA, all that stuff. I've made them my buddy, you know what I mean? It's kind of cool to have that relationship too, and be like, you're not just an employee that gets brought along, you know. Yeah, it's sweet. It you also kind of have to have a little bit of the of the want to go seek that extra curricular, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's very correct. Because some people don't, right?
SPEAKER_01Some people not just be like, and some people paycheck, you know, you get to those events if you do bring somebody, like it's fun to have fun. Some people see it as like a we're not gonna be working for a week. Uh-huh. When it's like, well, you're not gonna not be working for a week, you have to behave like you're at work, right? Right, right. I mean, but yeah, it's cool, it's really cool getting taken along to all that stuff, and meeting people where you know it's cool finding this like bubble, because from outside of before I did foam, I didn't know anything about it. You drive past new builds, you drive past construction as somebody who doesn't do labor, and you're like, Oh, they're just doing their thing, whatever. I'm sure that that takes some technical knowledge, but I have no I they're just doing their thing, buzzing away like ants or bumblebees or whatever, and then you become a part of it, yeah, and you're like, Oh shit, it's really cool. Like that guy is the best at doing open cell, and I just went and talked to him. We're like, you know, whatever it is. It's like there's like celebrities in this little absolutely, and it's really, really cool meeting them, and then so many down-to-earth people, and you're one of them. Yeah, sure. Like Rusty Schrader when we showed up in Vegas this year. We walked into the Westgate. Rusty was the first one that saw us, and he gave me Danny and Colton a hug. Colton's never met him, you know.
SPEAKER_00Like so that's actually funny that you said that because I was sitting down at the table, like right that little kind of stage area, yeah. And I was with Rusty and I was Steve Gould and a couple other guys, I can't remember their names off offhand, but we were sitting around drinking, and I had a perfect view of the door, you know, where I was sitting, I was looking right at the door, and so you see some people. Oh, there's that person, and I I said I said, Oh, there's Danny, and then Rusty's then he over and he ran right over there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, that stuff feels good. It's like, oh shoot, you know, you have to say hi to us. We know that you're happy to see everybody here, but those one-to-one interactions are cool.
SPEAKER_00They are, they are highlights of Vegas.
SPEAKER_01What were they? Oh man, personally, like the I've never taken the time to really talk to people from other countries at those events, mostly it's uh people from out of state and stuff like that. You get a lot of Mexican foamers and stuff like that, but we spent a lot of time with Daniel Bucking. Yep, Germany, right? Yep, and he brought a guy that you I believe he brought his name was Valdi. Okay, and I think that he uses Daniel's product. Daniel Run has a hose wrap, yeah. And I wish I could remember their name. I'm so bad with names. Is it is it pure craft? I don't know. I don't want to mislabel. Yeah, I don't want to mislabel. Okay, let's not do that. But the other guy was from Holland, AJ Volterink. Okay, Arduin, he like they're super fun. So we just had a ton of fun talking and like differences between cultures and uh like economies, like that where AJ's from, there's only like 20 major spray foam companies, so he only really ever has to compete. And I imagine when you get down to that scale in Holland with 20 companies, it's really just kind of like territories, sure, you just don't cross lines or whatever, right? They're just kind of interesting, but they're super fun. And taking them to Fremont Street, that was really, really fun. AJ had never been to America before. Oh, really? First time in America. Whoa, so we're kind of like poking fun at him, and he's poking fun at us, and then we went down to Fremont Street. You know what Fremont Street is, yeah, that was super fun. And I think the next day, because it was either the morning that Colton had to test, or maybe it was the morning of the competition. I had I had got I it's they blur. The days are out of order a little bit because we went, I think we went the reason I brought them up is because we ended up going to Fremont Street with Daniel, Valdi, and AJ like two times, three times over the course of the week at night because there it was just so much fun, and we're just walking up and down the street looking at people, oh yeah, listening to music. And but the next morning, I got a message at like six or seven in the morning. AJ had done Fremont Street and then gotten up early to go shoot guns. Oh, because he's never been to America. Yeah, what else are you gonna do? You're from I mean, like you can have guns, but you can't have guns. Yeah, and he's sent me a picture of him with a Barrett 50 cal on the back of a Hummer with like a belt-fed machine gun. It was freaking sweet. I was like, hell yeah, dude. You know, that's I was living vicariously through him a little bit.
SPEAKER_00What's crazy is to think that he probably probably kind of thinks that the whole United States is like that. I mean, if it's the only place you would have to be.
SPEAKER_01I was gonna say, well, and it's a little bit like that, but if you're Vegas is probably they I would say there's like three or four places that are like the most American you can get, and Vegas is gonna be one type. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's ever it's called Sin City, right? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00It's it's America's playground, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, Vegas was Vegas was a fun time this year. I in fact, I think I had more fun this time than than any of the others, and I've been to about five. Yeah, um, I think that this was probably the most fun for me, and maybe it was just because of the situations I was in or whatever.
SPEAKER_01I had a lot of fun going around with Colton. And like, you know, he's never been, he's not necessarily traveled, so getting to go to Vegas was cool for him. On top of that, getting to do like the Danny thing where I'm like, go go talk to that guy, go ask that guy. He's doing it to me. He's like, That's Bill Bilbin. I'm like, Yeah, dude, we use his tools every single day. Go walk up to him and tell him what's up, you know. He's gonna be happy to see you, like right. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00He's he's always he's always very welcoming, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's cool. So you grew up in Michigan around this area, right?
SPEAKER_01I grew up at uh Warren at like nine, I want to say nine in DeQinder, Cardigan Court.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I wouldn't know. I'm not familiar with that area too much, but I don't think it's too far. Warren, yeah, it's like all it's all metric. My Detroit is like your Grand Rapids, right? Like you that's kind of understand it, but not right very well. And so, yeah, I mean, tell me about your you know childhood or whatever. You got siblings, yeah. It was uh parents, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Me, my mom, and my sister. We grew up in Warren, and my mom's an English teacher.
SPEAKER_00Oh that was kind of oh, that's always fun. She's correcting you all the time, probably.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, my mom's super cool, very good teacher, very cool. Definitely, I guess you a grammar Nazi. She wouldn't like the Nazi Association, but she's definitely about being correct the way you speak. Uh more so vocabulary, though. My mom loves words and stuff like that. And because she was a teacher, you know, like she had to drop us off at school early, oh, and then pick us up from school late. So we were the lucky kids that got she was in the same district as you went to spend like an extra hour every day at school unwarranted for our entire school careers. I mean, I I imagine there there's probably some good things that good and bad. Yeah, you definitely the cool part about having a mom as a teacher and then spending more time than you want to at school is you you learn a lot more about how teachers operate and you can become cool with certain teachers much more easily, yeah. And kind of get that type of relationship going.
SPEAKER_00I imagine that like that before class and that after class, you probably spend a little more time with like some of the teachers and staff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you also get kind of like not slack, but they're like, I know your parents are teachers, so I know that oh at least some percentage of what you might be going through as the teacher's kid because I'm tearing my hair out trying to teach 30 other of you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You know, two sides. You're not, you don't get away with anything. Any any trouble you get in, go straight to your mom.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and then yeah, you have all other teachers, yeah. Yeah, teachers like, Hey, you know your mom teaches in this district, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know that I see her every you know week at a meeting or whatever. Yeah, so you said it was you and your brother or sister, little sister, me and my little sister, and we're two years apart.
SPEAKER_01Oh, fought all the time. Oh, yeah, yeah, just at each other's throats. Yeah, and then we moved out when when I was about 10, we moved to Shelby Township, and nothing crazy, just growing up as a teenager, yeah, trials and tribulations, yeah, like skateboarding and stuff like that. I play guitar, I've been playing guitar since I was like 11. Sure, stuff like that, stuff to kill time, wasn't you know, I grew up with just my mom and my sister, and no brothers, and no so I didn't really get into like sports and stuff like that. I got into guitar, skateboarding, sure, things that were more singular.
SPEAKER_00Take a drink. I every time I say sure, take a drink.
SPEAKER_01But otherwise, growing up was just kind of like we didn't necessarily live near the schools that I went to, so all my friends would be like I would go to like sleepovers and stuff like that, but I didn't have a ton of friends that I could that I went to school with that I could just go down the street and hang out with.
SPEAKER_00So I had to speak because you went to school at your mom where your mom taught, and then that wasn't in the district, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, yeah. Like we went Utica Community Schools is like 20 minutes away from Shelby Township, so I wasn't gonna get on my bike and ride for yeah, yeah, yeah. I made friends with the friends in my I had like my outside of school friend group and my inside school friend group, and then I don't know. We I graduated in 2016. I don't really have a crazy history, like I could get into like the goofy stuff I did when I was a middle schooler and teenager, but that's all everybody's done all that stuff. Yeah, graduated in 2016 and then holy cow, you're making me feel old. Yeah, and it's messed up too. I'm sure I'm making you feel old. I've am 28 years old and I'm starting to get tastes of other of other kids. That makes me feel old. That makes me feel even working with Colton, I'm only five years older than him, and we go back and forth with goofy lingo and stuff, but he'll say stuff that I don't even know what he's talking about. So it's fun, it's super fun. But trying to stay on the lingo is difficult, very difficult.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, don't try. Don't try. Just just uh yeah, I you know, I I sometimes wish there's a time machine. I'm like, it's you know, I'll be you know, nowadays there's like there you can watch videos like of course when I say nowadays, you probably all pretty much always had it, but like you can, you know, internet TV, there's like there's like music video channels on the you know, like the Roku or whatever. Oh, yeah, vivo 80s music. I'm watching that and I'm just like looking at these these videos, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, someone invent a time machine because I want to go back.
SPEAKER_01I know MTV isn't they don't it's not a channel anymore, like they took down their music video channel, they're gone. And if you go on YouTube, like I was trying to do it the other day with my three-year-old. I I'm like, dude, you're growing up the way that I grew up. Maybe we'll watch a movie you're not supposed to a little bit early, but you're not getting a phone, you're not getting this free YouTube reign. There's so much uh steelterious stuff that just kids are just allowed to have free reign over. And it's hard because like that's what they want.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you sometimes you want to give them what they want.
SPEAKER_01Oh, of course they want it. They're they're basically free range addicts, and you have to tell them what not to be.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? And they have no idea, they don't get it. Like, why? Why can't I do this? It's oh, why is why kills me?
SPEAKER_01I get why so often. I get straight to the face, why? Like, dude, come on, you're killing me.
SPEAKER_00You know, when when my wife and I first started having kids, and she didn't really like telling the kids like because I said so. But she's like, I don't know, I just don't like the connotation, you know. And I'm like, listen, I'm that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01So probably way more often because they don't really need to know why.
SPEAKER_00And the thing is, is if you explain why to them, then they're gonna like turn into little lawyers.
SPEAKER_01Well then you know they're gonna come in. Exactly. So the other option is either is because I told you to or go figure out what it's gonna do. I don't want to go figure out what it's gonna do on half the things he's asking me why on, because it's gonna end in electrocution. So you know what I mean? Like, but we were going to the I was going to show him, I was just gonna put because MTV got rid of their video channel. I was like, dude, you gotta watch old mute music videos.
SPEAKER_00Wait, did MTV have a music videos channel like recently?
SPEAKER_01Like a they've had the their their MTV was like a bunch of different channels when cable was popular and stuff, they had like MTV Rock and MTV 70s and 80s, they got rid of all of those actual channels that showed music videos, so there's no actual music television, it's just like reality TV shows and stuff like that that got popular, and that's whatever, it's a business decision. I went to show him, I went on YouTube, I went on the official MTV YouTube channel, found the playlist of all their music videos and put it on. Every single music video is two ads at the beginning, two ads at the end.
SPEAKER_00Of every oh, that's a lot.
SPEAKER_01You can't just watch like straight five music videos in a row and then get a commercial break anymore. You know what I mean? It's it's it stinks, and like he's just I love him to death. Like every time an ad comes on, he's like, Oh, commercial, who's that?
SPEAKER_00My three-year-old, you know what I mean? Like, I've got him trained, but that's funny because my daughter does this, she's nine, she does the same thing. Yeah, every commercial, she'll like talk back to it. Like, do you have that or do you want to do something like no?
SPEAKER_01You know, a little bit of healthy sarcasm, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of funny, but you know, I MTV was, I mean, that's just such a topic of you know, because when I was a kid, it was a channel that had music videos, and it was the first one, and it's actually the channel that made musicians, bands, and every you know, whatever make these videos for every song, every hit song. Yeah, and so like before that they didn't even really make videos, they had no reason to.
SPEAKER_01Well, and I feel like it forced it forced some artistry and like actual conceptualism out of artists because you wanted to write a song that had enough substance to make a video, and the video had to have enough substance, like oh, yeah, they would videos like like Hollywood movies, some of that. That's what I'm saying. Like Everlong by Foo Fighters, like one of the greatest music videos ever. I watch that whole music video every single time. It's just kind of interesting seeing that fade. I know, and that's not as what is as important now. Oh, it's and then we're and then you're talking about wanting the time machine, yeah. The time machine, I want that stuff to be important again, you know. Like I want to bring it all back.
SPEAKER_00I know it entered a little bit. I mean, I remember as a kid going to like because we didn't have cable at home, like we didn't have that kind of money, right? But if we were going to like a hotel or something, or grandpa and grandma's because they had cable, but like if we got you know, if we got the no one else was watching and we could watch what we wanted, it was always MTV. That was the only channel, right? Like we were interested in, right?
SPEAKER_01And because you get a video, you get a glimpse of stuff that you know because you didn't have all this unbridled access to the internet, you couldn't see things that you weren't allowed to see so freely. You had to see it on TV, it was controlled by your parents, exists or you know, like it's a lot different of an environment.
SPEAKER_00We got a million different channels, and I'm not saying like channels on TV, just a channel.
SPEAKER_01Any form of media is a channel, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Any page you click on, you're on this this stream of whatever you want. Yeah, but it is also awesome.
SPEAKER_01It's cool. No, it's amazing. I mean, the ability if only people had more common sense or I don't know, restraint, yeah. Maybe a little bit of restraint because it is powerful and you can prove or disprove anything in the palm of your hand, maybe a little bit less. With AI now. Oh, yeah. It's a little bit more questionable now. Before you used to be able to, I can't remember who said it. I saw a video, and it was a politician talking about the way AI is changing court. And before you used to be able to use a picture as irrefutable evidence of something, and now you that ever since the second AI becomes a thing, out the window. You know, I was like, everything is under question.
SPEAKER_00I was thinking about AI a lot when we were in Las Vegas because I I I like to play blackjack. Yeah. And I'm going, dude, like we got these like glasses, or you can hide a camera anywhere.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the metaglasses.
SPEAKER_00And can you imagine if you had like metaglasses and AI and you were at a blackjack table, you could literally just look around the table and the thing would count cards.
SPEAKER_01They're gonna have to. You go into the Westgate, and the Westgate has one camera for every single person on the casino floor. So they gotta have some kind of maybe anti-meta glasses rule. But the I don't know. They've they have really, really subversive ways of finding out if you cheat or not. Oh yeah, the one that I saw definitely one step ahead of you, yeah, no matter what. It was like UV ink on the lady's fingers, and another guy at the table had glasses that could see the UV ink in any cards that she touched. That was how they were counting cards. Really? Yeah, they were marking the cards with her thumbprint, and that so like if they can figure that out, I'm sure they could figure out hey, this guy's wearing glasses that are connected to the city. Oh, for sure, they would be able to.
SPEAKER_00But what if you're like embedding, you know? I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I always always like a button in your shirt or something.
SPEAKER_01The small ones are scary. The small ones freak me out just out and about, just like going into any bar bathroom or whatever. Like, is that screw a camera? Oh, I know it. Yeah, I know. It's that's it's we're in a really weird technological world. I know, you know, everything is becoming less less sure. Yeah, I don't know. Have you ever seen the show Black Mirror? No, you should watch Black Mirror. What what's it on? It's it's on Netflix, but don't watch like start in season three. Oh, dude, I can't start on season. No, no, it's not, it's not like it's like it's like Twilight Zone. It's uh it's an anthology, so that's each episode is a different story.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01So you can season three is what I started on. I didn't even know I was on season. I got you. But it's the black mirror is your phone, right? It's a black mirror, spooky. It is a black mirror, sure, sure. But it's just like a dark reflection of yourself in technology, okay? That's the basis of the show. Each episode is like like they'll have one on trying to think of an example. One of them is a guy that goes to test a video game, and the video game company uses artificial intelligence to like read your thoughts and brain patterns and find out what your worst fear might be. Oh, and then you play that worst fear out in the game. Terrifying, absolutely terrifying, and that's just like a dumb little fun example of something that like might go wrong with AI. But the whole show, each episode, you're like, maybe we should put restraints on certain things because watching the Boston Dynamics dogs hunt people down is kind of even though it's a TV show, it's like, well, they made a TV show about it.
SPEAKER_00So on some level, do you ever worry about like your kids, you know, like the world they're gonna grow up in?
SPEAKER_01All the time. I do too. All the time.
SPEAKER_00I've had uh one of my uh do you have recruit recurring nightmares? I I used to well, yeah, not not a lot, but every now and then. I don't know about nightmares, but dreams at least. Not a lot.
SPEAKER_01Every now and then. It sucks because it's normally the only ones that I like really remember vividly. Yeah, but it'll be ones about like nuclear war or something where it's like you there's nothing you can avoid about it. Oh it's one of those things where it's it's like a dream where you have in your brain, your subconscious, for whatever reason has decided you're gonna be in a situation that you can't get out of. We're gonna play this out while you're sleeping, and then you're gonna wake up and have to deal with it, you know. But yeah, like that stuff stinks. I hate thinking about that stuff, especially with a kid. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad I don't have nightmares like that. I mean, I well, it's yeah, it's not fucking every night, but well, of course, of course, stuff like that. It's not maybe not realistic, probably not realistic. Yeah, but you know, you you read enough news articles and stuff, and then you're like, shit, maybe I should be maybe I'm not being totally unrealistic. I just need to get it out of my head. You know, I need to I need to like focus on playing with the kid and not like what might happen to the kid, you know.
SPEAKER_00That's your only kid, you got a three-year-old?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we're trying to have another though.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah. He's gotta have a buddy, yeah, boy girl, he's gotta have a buddy. Yeah, and if you get if you get a pretty good age group, I think that they kind of get along. I mean, age, age, age separation, age, because three or four years, they probably won't be able to do it.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna be a little bit more mature. That's what I'm hoping. Because I was two years older than my sister, and I I was yeah, they're too close in age, they just find out.
SPEAKER_00We were at each other's throat for sure. For sure.
SPEAKER_01And I love her to death, she's my best friend, but it's it's when we were growing up, it was so difficult. Yeah, I want him to not for mine and my wife's sanity. I want him to have a good relationship with his sibling.
SPEAKER_00But my brother was two years older than me, and we had the same thing. We get along great now. I mean, but yeah, growing up, we were always fighting, you know, always fighting. Oh my gosh. Right. Yeah, that's weird how that how that changes once you once you get older, you know, how those relationships just start to kind of blossom a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Well, and I think it also comes with like you you do get to a certain age as a teenager where you're like, you're like, I want to be an adult. Like, I can't wait to be an adult. Uh-huh. I want responsibility, I want maturity, I want the and it half of it's rooted in like fuck my parents, I want to get out of this house. Yeah, I don't want anybody to tell me what to do. And I think the other half is like actual maturity. I actually want to do something, I actually want to be independent. And then you get like 10 years after that, and you're like, fuck, I should have just not wished to be an adult as hard as I did.
SPEAKER_00But we but you're I mean, if you're anything like me, you're probably still doing it. Some you know, like sometimes you're like, I can't wait until you know this, oh 100%. I that's you know, your kids are growing up or whatever, and I can't wait till they're out of diapers or uh something I can't wait till they're you know, and obviously you're always trying to, you know, in scarpe DMC's of the day, whatever. Right. But sometimes you're thinking about that, you're thinking about like you know it's things are gonna be a little bit easier, a little bit more fun when, hopefully soon. Yeah, and then and then if you're anything like me, also like you're you go back and you look back at certain times and you're like, Oh, that was so great. Like when I years ago when I did this, or when I whatever.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, my thing the on looking back, I you know, I only got my first real like on the table job when I was 18. I worked at farms before then just for cash, yeah, picking tomatoes. Oh wow, and freaking I mean, picking tomatoes is like one month a year, right? No, well, like picking tomatoes, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like the hard labor part. We would do farmers markets and stuff like that. It was a lot of picking tomatoes is like me making less of it. But I've only been working like on the table. I started working at a liquor store. I've only been working for 10 years, right? And I've got a house, got a wife and a kid. I can afford all of my bills when the work is there. You know what I mean? Like, it's not that bad. You look back and you're like, damn it, what was I doing? And then you're like, Oh, I'm not kind of got it figured out. I'm not doing too bad. I'm deaf. Everybody wants more, everybody wants to be more comfortable for sure. But you do got to kind of give yourself a break sometimes. For sure. A little bit of one, not too much of one.
SPEAKER_00How how tell me about your wife? How long have you been married? All that stuff. We've been together 10 years. Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I met her when I was 17 and she was 16. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then we moved in together probably two years after that. She moved in in a I lived with my mom, she moved in with me, and then we both moved out to her grandmother's house, which much closer to Danny's shop. Okay. Her grandmother lives like 10 minutes north of Danny. Oh. And her grandmother's got a nice big house, 20 acres. So we saved up our money while we were living there, and then bought a house in Chesterfield. How did you uh how did you guys meet in school? Yeah, we went to uh it was a grad party. I I told him talked about playing guitar. We were I was in like a little goofy kind of a band, but mostly we just got together and smoked weed and played guitar. But she was gonna be our singer, and it was at a grad party for my buddy, who was like the pseudo-leader, he was the house that we would practice at, and she came over to like audition, and we never auditioned, we just smoked weed. Kind of jammed, yeah, yeah. And then me and her hit it off, and that was it. I think it was a little bit mad because we got distracted by trying to make out and stuff like that instead of practicing. But yeah, that that was pretty much it. We hit it off, and 10 years later.
SPEAKER_00What's your wife's name?
SPEAKER_01Skylar. Skylar.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she's called Skyler. I'm sure she's gonna listen to this podcast. I mean, I would hope so.
SPEAKER_01Please listen to it. Please listen to it. I love you.
SPEAKER_00My wife doesn't listen to any of my, I don't think.
SPEAKER_01No, no, I'm gonna go home and listen. I it's gonna be the first time like seeing myself on on camera in length, and I'm probably gonna hate it. Oh well, you know, everyone always thinks like they're I'm looking up at that thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, everybody kind of thinks that they sound weird, including myself. And I don't know, that's just but that's the way you sound, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just don't think you do, right? Everyone else does. I blame it on the microphone.
SPEAKER_01You gotta meet me in person. That's how is your wife a good singer? I think so. Oh, you're like, she doesn't like to she doesn't like to sing in front of anybody ever, but she's a great singer, yeah. Very pretty voice, very light angelic voice. Are you pretty good at guitar? Yeah, I'd like to say so. Yeah, guitar, yeah. My main thing lately is awesome talent to have.
SPEAKER_00I so wish I would have gotten into that.
SPEAKER_01Guitar's fun, it can be difficult if you're you really have to give yourself a break. Like anything like that artistic when you're learning, you gotta give yourself a break because you're gonna force yourself to try to be something that you might not be at that time, and that's like the difficulty. I don't know. Everybody wants to be a rock star, everybody wants to be famous, nobody wants to put the work in it.
SPEAKER_00I just think it's yeah, that that was it for me. So I bought an acoustic guitar, you know, and I'm not years and years ago, crazy good or anything, but yeah. I I bought an acoustic guitar because I really wanted to play, and uh, you know, I gave it about 10 good college tries, but I didn't stick with it, right? Yeah, yeah. So I'd play like crazy for like a couple days, and then I wouldn't play for a while. It's not the way it works, right?
SPEAKER_01No, yeah. I got lucky. I like I was saying, I didn't have a lot of friends in the neighborhood to hang out with, so I'd end up spending a lot of time at home, bored, might as well play guitar. And then at that point, you're literally alone in a room with the internet and the ability to look up whatever you want. Yeah, and that's that's pretty much what I did for like every day after school, I'd go home, play video games, play guitar. Like that was my that was my thing. I know Danny is getting into drums quite a bit. You guys ever get together? I got him into those drums. You did? Yeah, all right. Good for you. I've been playing drums for a little bit. Danny has been getting the he's the first person, like we were talking about picking it up, putting it down, picking it up. He's the first person I've been able to actually like get into something musical where he's like he's got more drum sets than I do. More drumsets, he's got one full-size drum set, like fully built. I have like half of a crappy drum set, like a live kit, uh-huh. And then he's got the same electronic drum set that I have like fully kitted out, and he posts videos and stuff. He makes me jealous. I just jam, yeah, I just have fun in my room.
SPEAKER_00You know, electric drums are kind of a at least for me from what I realize, it's like it's kind of a newer thing. I haven't really seen that except you know, it's in the last five or six years, it seems like.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's more I think it I think multiple things made it popular. I think a lot of like live DJ shows where you have like you can't have an 808 on a live drum kit, it has to be an electronic kit or a button that you press on a you know what I mean. It's pew, pew, pew, you know, sure. That and then people ha wanting to play the drums and need having a the need to play the drums or whatever, but not having the ability to play a live kit, like a live kit in this room, even with all the soundproofing, would be so loud. Oh, yeah. So that thing is yeah, the loudest you get is like if I'm stomping on the kick pedal, it might sound like that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but that's kind of like it looks weird if you if you're if you see someone playing, if you see somebody playing like like in church or something like that, yeah. It just looks weird.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't it it really does, it does, it does, and then it's kind of like you have to have the proper balance of like speakers and stuff, or else all you're hearing behind every hit is the is the fake drum pad, the little taps of the fake drum pad. Yeah, exactly. It's just like a it's a little yeah, yeah, it takes you out of it, it takes you out of it a little bit, but it's fun, it's therapeutic. Like it's definitely it's definitely good to get extra energy out, but it's also cool to have I don't know, you figure out a song or a pattern. It's really, really satisfying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Getting back into I guess like more spray foam stuff. Well, what'd you do today? What what are you working on right now?
SPEAKER_01We did so we're at a bigger house in Romeo.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, they got some monsters up there. Yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of intimidating for anybody that anybody's listening, and that's where Kid Rock is famously from. Kid Rock and my yeah, my my in-laws, my my mother-in-law grew up there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's actually like four or five miles from that farm that I used to pick up. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Gas centennial farms at 32 in Romeo Plink. Yeah, but we were doing a so the customer had mold that started to grow on their roof deck.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, let's talk about mold. Anyway, go ahead and tell that, and then let's talk about mold.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, it the mold had started growing because of lack of ventilation, yeah. And so we had to go in, suck out all the insulation. We had both of our vacuums. We have like a smaller vacuum with a I want to say it's a six-inch diameter hose, and then we have a big vacuum, Acu Acu1, AcuVac, AcuVac. And that thing's got like a 10-inch diameter. That thing's a monster. You gotta ratchet strap it to one of the trusses because if you put a bat down, it fucking oh right, right, right. But uh we sucked out that house, air sealed it, and then today we remediated it. Not a lot of mold, not a lot of mold, and then the chemical that we use is it you you really don't have to go crazy with it. You're not like flooding the attic or anything like that. Couple of a couple of coats with it.
SPEAKER_00Some scrubbing if it's I think that's a great add-on that you guys do to insulation, is the mold.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it's peace of mind. I cut I mean, like, well, one you can make money on it. Yeah, it should be gotten rid of. You shouldn't you shouldn't have mold in your house. Uh-huh. If you're spraying foam, you shouldn't spray foam on mold. It holds moisture and it's a layer, you know, it could delaminate theoretically. Yep. If it isn't somehow perfectly embedded to the substance, one thing that's in between the foam and the wood, or whatever. Yeah. And then I guess just for the general appearance, it's kind of cool as a company being able to roll in as experts in this, but also experts in this. You roll in, you know, we're gonna do a removal and a reinstallation, but we noticed that you have a lot of mold here. That was probably caused by the fact that your soft vents got blocked off. You got edge vents installed, smart vents installed, but you never got baffles run from those smart vents. So they're only taking that air that filters in at whatever speed it's filtering in at. It's not being directed up along that roof line at all, it's not going out that ridge vent at all. I mean, it's you can all the mold is at the very top by the ridge vent because there's no air movement up there. Exactly. You know what I mean? It's pretty easy to see.
SPEAKER_00Well, and you can go in and you can like listen, I'll you're kind of knocking out two birds, right?
SPEAKER_01Like, you're I'm giving you better insulation, but also I'm fixing, you know, and ventilation, especially if you tell them about it and they go and get quotes from another company for just the mold remediation, yeah. Because sometimes companies kind of go nuclear with mold.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, you can probably get as much money as they possibly can. You can make a lot of money just by scaring people 100%. Like, you can go in and be like, listen, you got mold, you know, and some of them gotta get a some of them probably freak out a little bit, like, listen, it's not that big of a deal, it's actually kind of common, but we can take care of it, you know. Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, I shouldn't say it's not that big of a deal. It is a big deal.
SPEAKER_01Well, and but if you have the tools to model to mitigate it, it's fixable, it's not that big of a deal. It really isn't. You can't be, you know, we can't be around this chemical while we're working with it. That's an easy one to tell them. You got to go to the neighbor's house, to family members' house, get a hotel room or whatever. You set up negative air so that there's no contamination beyond where you want it, and then you clean everything up. It's super easy, it's very simple. Yeah, there's not a lot of risk in it, it's just whether or not people want to go down that route, whether they care. Yeah, you know, if they don't care about a couple spots of mold, that's not our prerogative.
SPEAKER_00Right. So if there's anybody out there who's maybe thinking about definitely definitely getting into it if you see it, don't just let it well. And I'm I'm speaking to like the spray foamers, like hey, some of them out there that are maybe looking to kind of you know get into more than just spray and foam or you're just insulation. Maybe if you know Danny, you know, you know Bobby, whatever, reach out a hundred. Of course, as long as you're not within their competition area, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I I know that Danny would would absolutely help someone for sure, and you would too, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Either way, uh and it's a it's something that might seem intimidating up until you realize it's all it's it's almost like asbestos, but it is not as involved or as dangerous or as much liability. You look at a mold job and it's just all we're gonna do is prep everything off and then start working. Yeah, and that's pretty much it, and then just clean up afterwards.
SPEAKER_00Well, there's there's there's plenty of jobs out there too, you know. And like I said, some people are willing to pay some money and get have peace of mind that that is not in their house, right?
SPEAKER_01You know, so well, and you know, I'm not shoot, dude. I'm not, I don't know. If you've got infants in the house, if you've got elderly in the house, I would not want anything extra that need doesn't need to be there, you know what I mean? It is it is definitely something that has to be taken care of.
SPEAKER_00What do you say of okay? So speaking of that, like it has to be taken care of. I would think that a lot of people probably let's say there's mold in their attic and they're kind of like, all right, but it's in the attic. Like, I'm not necessarily breathing it or what like what how how's that sales that sort of thing go?
SPEAKER_01Well, it's so it's really comes down to it's it can cause health problems. It is a some form of pathogen. You don't necessarily want it in your house. It might not be, you know, you're not sticking your head up in the attic and breathing it every day, but it is accumulated to that point. It's only gonna eat the wood, it's only gonna eat wood. I didn't know that it's mold it. That's the food, sure. What water, water and organic material? That's why mold won't be that's why mold won't grow on inorganic material, it won't grow on metal, it won't grow on plastic, it'll grow on the dust and the moisture that's on the metal and plastic, but right it's not feeding off of any of those things, right? It'll eat wood, fungus, mold. So obviously it's like, yeah, if if the moisture alone isn't enough. But like no, but if you if if you have moisture and you have no ventilation, that's that's where you if you don't have any way for that moisture. Well, like you said, a metal.
SPEAKER_00I'm just saying it needs to get moisture and something else, like something else that's biodegradable or you know, something and there's a thin layer of something else on everything, unless you're in like a sterile lab.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know what I mean. It's the same thing where like when you're trying to sell it to customers, if you're doing mold testing and stuff like that inside the house, in the living space, where you don't necessarily have as much fresh air exchange as you might outdoors. I mean, if you're outdoors, you're outdoors, that's ultimately that's where it becomes a risk because you're in that information. Oh, yeah, trapped with it in a chamber or whatever. If you take the little mold strips, the the mic micro slides, whatever they're called, it's like a it's like an adhesive on a microscope slide. And when when you do the mold test, you stick that to the surface that you're testing. Okay, send it off to a lab, and they look at it and see what kind of mold spores it picked up, if any. If you do that test in an attic with mold, you're gonna have a certain parts per million that you're have to be within range of. If you go outside and you do that test, you're gonna be outside of that range of parts per million because there's mold spores everywhere outside. There's mold spores in the air, there's mold spores on the ground, everywhere. So you're breathing more. Mold, your breathing mold spores, it's part of the air, it's just like dust. When you're in your house, it's going to be elevated because you're in that contained space. You don't necessarily want to be huffing it, you know. Yeah. That's kind of the sales pitch. That's also not like I'm not the salesman, so that's probably not what I would say to a customer. But that's the idea behind it is you you you know that it's there, you know that you're breathing it, and you know that you're in a confined space. You don't have like a whole house fan that's constantly putting positive pressure on your attic space so that no mold spores can come into that living space. Sure. Yeah. So at some point you're breathing mold spores.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You want to get rid of them.
SPEAKER_00There's a lot of lot of stuff in the air.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. A lot of stuff. I mean, we're in Detroit. Detroit has you go on the weather app, Detroit has its own air quality rating. Oh, yeah. You click on it. Sometimes we're orange, sometimes we're blue and happy.
SPEAKER_00Well, you see that more in the in the summer for sure. In the winter, I think that I think a lot of airs in the winter here, at least in the northern climate. I think, I think, and I'm like, I could be completely wrong, but I think it's pretty clean.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would say for the most part. Also, I feel like our industry cools.
SPEAKER_00In the summer, no.
SPEAKER_01No. Especially by Zug Island, the freaking steel mill.
SPEAKER_00Oh, there's a steel mill that's dumping out a bunch of crap.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah. Zug island's cool, but yeah, it's like it's like if you look at it from Google Maps, it's this man-made island off the River Rouge, and it's completely black. Really?
SPEAKER_00It's just because it's a steel. How do they get away with that still?
SPEAKER_01Dude, it's crazy. All right. So they have four, if I'm remembering correctly, they got four refineries on there. Only one of them is running. They shut down the other three.
SPEAKER_00This is steel for the auto industry, or what is it?
SPEAKER_01Steel. Steel for the auto industry. Yeah, yeah. I would imagine auto industry probably mostly. And they have a coke battery where all the coke produced from the steel production has to be cooled. Wait, all the all the Coca-Cola? What do we say? It's a byproduct. It's it's like it's like a rocky substance. Okay. I'm I also might be getting this completely wrong. I'm just going off the Wikipedia page. Super, I went on a Zug Island. We we don't have any any fact checkers, so don't worry about it. Oh no, I want that. I want to be correct. I want to be correct. But basically, the coke that's produced has to be cooled down before anything can be done to it before it can be moved or shipped. And they use the river or they use the water from the Detroit River to cool it down. Oh, that's why Zug Island was built there. Okay. To use the river as part of the But that's just cooling water. That's not necessarily a large amount of water and they dump it on the coke. Oh shit. Oh, you're fine. They dump it on the coke to cool it. Every time they do that, this gigantic plume of steam gets released up into the air. Okay. And everything else that is released with that steam goes with it. Okay. And they get fined by the EPA ten thousand dollars every time they do that. And they do that every 30. 30 to 90 seconds. Every 30 to 90 seconds. So they rack up like over 11 million dollars in fees from the EPA a year, just running that steel mill, just a cost of doing business. Holy cow, it's crazy. And then that whole neighborhood next to it, Delray, used to be all people that worked at all those different steel mills, total ghost town now. Like you can drive through it and it's like streets of empty lots, and then there will be one house because this person didn't move out.
SPEAKER_00It's like in Detroit, you're talking about. Yeah, oh, I've seen those.
SPEAKER_01Like yeah, like super interesting when you drive by it, it's kind of like this weird, dark Detroit history. Uh-huh. Just kind of like I don't know. That's probably one of the contributing factors to our air quality.
SPEAKER_00Is that I think it's a lot better than it used to be, though. You know, oh, have you ever seen it definitely is, and and it's good, you know. Have you have you ever seen like an old black and white aerial like picture of like a big city back, like you know, in 1940? Cloud of carbon monoxide, no, not that not that necessarily. I remember I remember in Grand Rapids smog. We don't see smog anymore. Like smog is I've never seen a yellow cloud over a city. I haven't seen one in probably 15 years now, right? Which is pretty wild. But uh, no, the old black and white, like you would see because all those homes are heating with with the wood stoves, right? And so, like, if it was winter time and it was an aerial of like, let's say a big city, you'd see the smokestacks of the the the industries, whatever the the plants or yeah, whatever you call them, the big the buildings that make stuff. But then there would also be every single house, you'd see all these, like if it was a calm day, you'd see all these smokes coming out of the chimneys of all these houses. You're not a hundred houses or more, like just in one picture.
SPEAKER_01Smoke is particulate, and all that particulate is spreading and settling, and yeah, and that's just the way that we used to do it.
SPEAKER_00I mean, they pollute the living, and a lot they polluted the rivers like crazy. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's part of the I mean the Michigan went through a crazy effort to bring back the Great Lakes back in the 80s and stuff because we were polluting the hell out of them.
SPEAKER_00The Great Lakes are way better than they used to be, even since I was a kid. I mean, I I went out there, I went out to uh Lake Michigan. I was bidding a house about five, six years ago, and this was way up on a bluff. It was on the wall, it was on the lake, but it was a way up on a bluff, so you could see for you know miles. And the lake is just so clear. And I've been riding jet skis around the you know the lakes a little bit too, and I'm just like, man, I mean, I'm 44, and I'm thinking I don't I do not remember the lakes being this clean. Yeah, yeah. And you know, one thing I said to the guy, the owner of the house, I said, What's the deal? Is it is that the EPA regulations and everything? And he says, He said, Well, that that might be part of it. He says, but also the muscles, I guess the zebra mussels they really filter out.
SPEAKER_01They fill the which is an invasive species that we don't want, don't need right, but they clean the water because they're they do clean the water, so it is kind of there's one thing they coat the whole bottom of Lake Michigan, the entire bottom of Lake Michigan, apparently, is zebra mussels. Oh my gosh, yeah, it's a big problem.
SPEAKER_00That's actually own a boat, that's a huge problem. Oh, they like attach themselves like with this well and they starve everything else out of food, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But because they I mean they filter the water, they clean the water, they clean it to the point where there's no food for the smaller things in the water, right? But I was reading this book, super cool. I it's called I think it's called The Life and the Death of the Great Lakes. Oh, and it was about the effort that we put in to bring the Great Lakes back from all the chemical pollution, and then subsequently in focusing on the chemical pollution, how we didn't necessarily consider all the boats that come up the St. Lawrence Seaway from the ocean into the Great Lakes with bilge water from the ocean, and then they dump their salty bilge water in the Great Lakes with whatever they've brought from the ocean into the Great Lakes, any organism whatever gets dumped into our Great Lakes. That's that's how they all got here, and then that's how that stuff, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Yep, that's all they all got here. I mean, I remember you know back in the 80s and 90s going through school, they that's that's pretty much what they taught us.
SPEAKER_01But it's uh super interesting.
SPEAKER_00But hey, if you're if you're you know not from around the Great Lakes area, summer's coming. Michigan is a wonderful place in the summertime. Oh, yeah, definitely come. Definitely come to Michigan. Try to get out here, and hey, if you do, hit me up and we'll do a podcast. So hey, so let's uh let's finish this up. We're running out of time. I'm gonna give you a couple fast questions and uh see what we'll see what we can get. Have you ever won anything at a spray foam event and what?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I won the first time I went. First time I went first time, yeah. I won a vacation to Wyoming. Yeah, I took Sky. You went and and took your and took your wife. We went to Wyoming. Uh, it was the Crooked Creek Resort at like 3,900 feet up on a mountain.
SPEAKER_00No, I think I remember seeing that. You guys, you guys posted about that. I did. I posted a bunch of pictures. Okay, yeah, it was freaking awesome.
SPEAKER_01Victory, uh not victory, natural polymers.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, natural polymers.
SPEAKER_01Shout out to natural polymers for that. Good job. What was your first car? Two uh 1999 Taurus. Oh, yeah, the Tauras, yeah, right? I had no coolant in it the entire time I drove it. I mean, that thing was bone dry. Is it leaking, or are you just dude? I don't know, but it never blew up. I drove I drove it through a polar vortex. Remember, I think it was like 2019 or maybe 2018. We got like a polar vortex, it was like negative 30 the whole winter. I had no heat, no coolant, and no windshield wiper for it.
SPEAKER_00All because you just didn't put some antifreeze in it, dude.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know I didn't, I was so dumb. I was so naive. My life has been correcting naivety. That's all it has been, day to day. Like, oh wow, I was really dumb about that.
SPEAKER_00I guess I won't be all you need to put a little coolant in there, you'd have you'd have been spent the winter a little bit warmer. Oh, that's funny. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. That's crazy. Yeah. What's your favorite movie?
SPEAKER_01Oh, either John Carpenter's the thing, or oh, there's too many good ones, man.
SPEAKER_00Because you're you're definitely you definitely have different movie tastes than me because I don't even know what that is. Oh, it's like 80s. It's got Kurt Russell, it's like 80s.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I shouldn't have sci-fi gore, or maybe like Django and something Quentin Tarantino. I like Quentin Tarantino.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, he's he's a little out there, but uh pretty pretty good stuff. Have you ever had a major medical or non-medical emergency on the job? No, oh well, good for you.
SPEAKER_01Nope. Everything good, everything good. Well, are you on the job at foam? Yeah, okay, yeah. No. Okay, what about not foam? So me and Skylar were dishwashing. We were both dishwashers.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'd I've done some dishwashing in my day.
SPEAKER_01We gotta do it. I forgot that was one of the jobs I had for a brief period of time, but so we would just swap off one day. She would wash and I would run dishes, and one day she would run dishes and I would wash. It was kind of cool getting to work with her. Oh, for sure. But it's a horrible injury. She was running a stack of plates. She's a short girl, she had a tall stack of plates, she couldn't see. Short girl in a tall stack of plates. And she was walking down the cook line, and the cook had just poured like a five-gallon bucket of auju off of the cooktop, so like 350-400 degrees, and she tripped over it and ended up. She tripped and she burnt like everything from the top of her thighs down to her ankles all the way around. And like she tripped. I turned around because I heard plates falling and just saw like a wall of steam. It was crazy, absolutely insane. And then she she got workman's comp, everything was covered, but she spent like two and a half months in the hospital. Whoa, worst workplace injury I've ever seen. She when she turned around, when she got when she got up, I and I had turned around and seen that she had got hit by something hot and that it was on her legs. I was like, get your pants off right now. Right. She pulled her pants down, and like the first top layer of skin came off on the inside. Just right there, yeah, dude. Oh, just a just like the very top layer was absolutely terrifying. Yeah.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_01She's a tough girl though. She did it. That was the car. I was driving that tourist to Detroit receiving hospital with no heat through the polar vortex every single day. She probably didn't want heat, but dude.
SPEAKER_00If it's anything like that, no, no.
SPEAKER_01I mean, she she was already in that. That was me getting to the hospital just to visit her.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I was like, I don't even care that I don't have heat.
SPEAKER_00I just want to make sure she's okay. It's adrenaline. All right, man. Well, we got to wrap this up. Hey man, thanks for coming out. This was I'm I it was awesome to be able to count on you guys. I knew I could. So yeah, it's awesome. I love it. I love Michigan people. Love doing the foam thing. This was fun. It was good to get to know you because I mean, like I said, we ran into each other a lot of times, but we didn't really get to know each other too well. So no one on one conversations. It's nice. I really appreciate it, man. All right. Well, we'll uh we'll wrap this up then. Thanks, man. No problem. Have a good one. Talk to you later.
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